{"id":3163,"date":"2023-06-30T00:01:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-30T04:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/therabbithoel.com\/?p=3163"},"modified":"2023-06-29T19:57:59","modified_gmt":"2023-06-29T23:57:59","slug":"a-follow-up-on-howdy-neighbor-how-to-find-a-location","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/therabbithoel.com\/?p=3163","title":{"rendered":"A Follow Up on Howdy Neighbor &#8211; How to Find a Location"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Last week, I posted about finding that a large number of relatives were from a smallish area in Germany. I had some requests from people who wanted to know where their relatives were from. So here are some tips you can use to try to find out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Birth and Death Certificates<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Frequently, birth certificates and baptismal records will list the parents place of birth. It may only say a country, but you can use that to research further. <\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"629\" height=\"321\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/C-Krumpelmann.jpg?resize=629%2C321&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/C-Krumpelmann.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/C-Krumpelmann.jpg?resize=300%2C153&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/C-Krumpelmann.jpg?resize=768%2C392&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 629px) 100vw, 629px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This baptismal record for Maria Catherina Kr\u00fcmpelmann shows her birth location. I talked about it more in this <a href=\"https:\/\/therabbithoel.com\/?p=1018\">post<\/a>. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Death certificates may also list the parents place of origin. In this record, Anthony Wellman&#8217;s parents, Gerhard and Catherine (Maria Catherina Kr\u00fcmpelmann) Wellman are listed as being from Germany. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"629\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/death-cert-Anthony-Wellman-edited.png?resize=629%2C608&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/death-cert-Anthony-Wellman-edited.png?w=644&amp;ssl=1 644w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/death-cert-Anthony-Wellman-edited.png?resize=300%2C290&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 629px) 100vw, 629px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Ship&#8217;s Manifests<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Typically, a ship&#8217;s manifest will show country of origin as well as intended destination. This manifest for the Albany shows the origin of Erasmus Straub as being from the W\u00fcrttemberg area of Germany. Using this information, I was able to find he was born in Beiringen. You can read more about him here. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"391\" height=\"624\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ship-manifest-Albany-Erasmus-Straub.jpg?resize=391%2C624&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ship-manifest-Albany-Erasmus-Straub.jpg?w=391&amp;ssl=1 391w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ship-manifest-Albany-Erasmus-Straub.jpg?resize=188%2C300&amp;ssl=1 188w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 391px) 100vw, 391px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Census Records<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Census records also provide information. They usually tell where the person was born and often give the birthplace of the person&#8217;s parents. This census record shows the parents of both Henry Vonderhaar and Anna Wellman, his wife, as being Germany. I recently wrote about <a href=\"https:\/\/therabbithoel.com\/?p=3123\">their anniversary<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"629\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped.jpg?resize=629%2C90&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3127\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C146&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C43&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C110&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C219&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C293&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=900%2C129&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?resize=1280%2C183&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/1920-census-cropped-scaled.jpg?w=1887&amp;ssl=1 1887w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 629px) 100vw, 629px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Naturalization papers<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Naturalization records always give the country of origin. They may have more detailed information, depending on who filled out the paperwork and when it was completed. This record for Maria Kuhlmann shows her birthplace as Bokel, Germany. You can read more about her <a href=\"https:\/\/therabbithoel.com\/?p=2921\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"629\" height=\"749\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=629%2C749&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2929\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=860%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 860w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=252%2C300&amp;ssl=1 252w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=768%2C915&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=1289%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1289w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=900%2C1072&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?resize=1280%2C1525&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/therabbithoel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/declaration-to-be-a-naturalized-citizen.jpg?w=1500&amp;ssl=1 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 629px) 100vw, 629px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hopefully this will help your search!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, I posted about finding that a large number of relatives were from a smallish area in Germany. 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